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Sunday, February 8, 2009

Death : before and after

Shalom to all

The past two years or so many people were trying to force down a doctrine about death that I find very controversial to say the least.
The two books 5 minutes before death and 5 minutes after death, by Dr. Isak Burger of the Apostolic Faith Mission of South Africa church.

I do not know what the fuss is about this book.
Who has died and come back and tell the tale of exactly what is happening 5 minutes before you die and what is happening to you during the 5 minutes after you have died.
There are many people who had a near death experience and they all say different things.
Fact is, what did they experience and not many of them can say what is happening after they have died.
The book uses the parallel story that Jesus told about Lazarus and the rich man.
I do not think that this was what Jesus had in mind to say what will happen after you have died.
Why do they send people to heaven or hell the moment they have died.
If you are going to hell when you die (if you were a unbeliever) why do you have to be resurrected at the second resurrection of the dead for judgment day if you are already condemned and in hell?
Yeshua Jesus said that blessed is he who take part in the first resurrection.
We know that the will be two resurrections in the future.
The first one to eternal life and life with the holy One of Israel and the second to eternal damnation.
So if you die now and go to heaven or hell, why do we need a resurrection day?

Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Joh 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
Joh 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:


Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither, had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again, until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Okay, if you are in heaven then you will be alive (though not in the same body but in a new body) and if you are in hell you will also be alive though you will die eternally.
But Paul says in Thessalonians that them which are sleep.
So if you are asleep how can you be in hell or in heaven?

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet, the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


Paul speaks here about the first resurrection. This will take place at the coming of the Lord after the tribulation.

What I understand for the Bible is that the first resurrection takes place at the coming of the the Lord and that only those who believed in Yeshua as Messiah and the saved will be the ones that will be part of the first resurrection.
Then the second resurrection will take place after the thousand year reign of Christ on earth before God destroys this earth and make a new heaven and a new earth.
So the people who have not died in Christ will be asleep till the second resurrection.
Therefore I believe that when you die you will be a sleep till the resurrection day weather it is the first or the second.

Frankly I feel that to make a fuss about this subject and even to add doctrine to this is wrong.
The Word of God clearly states that we need Messiah for eternal Salvation and that we have to be born again to be able to have part in the first resurrection.
It is not biblical correct to say if someone died that they will go directly to heaven or hell.
We will not know who will be in heaven or in hell.
I think there will be many surprised people in heaven to see people there whom they never even thought would be there. (That is if we will recognise others in heaven)

what is important is that you will find Yeshua Messiah as the only way to God and be born again in the spirit and commit the flesh to the will of God Most High and He will add the rest unto you.
It is not important what happens 5 minutes after death or even before death as long as you have Messiah in your heart and live the way he wants you to live you know where you will open your eyes after you slept.

In Yeshua Jesus
Past. Harry

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